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حمله دوباره صهیونیست به تاریخ ایران. 300:ظهور امپراطوری
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۰:۵۵, ۷/فروردین/۹۳
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۷/فروردین/۹۳ ۴:۲۴ توسط Justice Bringer.)
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هالیوود شمشیرش را برای ایران از رو بسته است / اکران قسمت دوم فیلم “۳۰۰ “. لوگوی جدید قسمت دوم فیلم ۳۰۰ توسط صفحه فیسبوک این فیلم منتشر شد. قسمت اول این فیلم ضد ایرانی سال ۲۰۰۷ اکران شد و با تحریف تاریخ خشم ایرانیان را برانگیخت.کمپانی وارنر بروس قصد دارد قسمت دوم این فیلم را سال ۲۰۱۳ روی پرده ببرد. این فیلم در ابتدا قرار بود با عنوان “۳۰۰″: نبرد درمنه با نبرد ارتمیس (آرتمیس: ملکه هالیکارناس در کاریا و یکی از فرماندهان زن ناو دریایی حکومت خشایار شاه میباشد) اکران شود اما بعد نام آن به “۳۰۰: ظهور یک امپراطوری” تغییر کرد . همچنان “رودریگو سانتورو”، “اوا گرین” و “سالیوان استاپلتون” در این قسمت حضور خواهند داشت. این فیلم براساس کتابهای مصور “Xeres” به معنای “خشایار” نوشته “فرانک میلر” ساخته میشود.این قسمت فیلم [b]۳۰۰ توسط “نوام مورو” کارگردان صهیونیستی فیلم “انسانهای هوشمند” میباشد که تمرکز خود را بر کاراکتر “رودریگو سانتورو” یعنی “خشایار” قرار داده است. “رودریگو سانتورو” در مصاحبه [/b]ای گفت: “در این قسمت هم نبردهایی مانند نبردهای قسمت اول خواهید دید ، اما اینبار با چشم اندازی متفاوت”.این فیلم نبرد بین ایران و یونان در زمان خشایار شاه فرزند داریوش بزرگ و اتوسا (دختر کوروش بزرگ) را به تصویر میکشد . دوستان من خیلی دوست دارم نظرات شما رو در مورد این فیلم و نگاهتون به این فیلم رو بدونم واکنش های خوب دیدم!! واکنش های بد دیدم!! می خوام نظر شما رو هم بدونم اصلا فکر می کنید این فیلم چی می خواد بگه به دنیا؟؟؟ لازم به ذکر که 2 هفته صدر باکس افیس امریکا بوده و امتیازش در imdb 7 هست کلا استقبال خوبی شده ازش ممنون این هم تحلیل سایت history vs hollywood البته کارگردان فیلم رو تاریخی نمی دونه بلکه فانتزیه!!!!REEL FACE:REAL FACE: Sullivan StapletonBorn: June 14, 1977 Birthplace: Melbourne, Australia ThemistoclesBorn: c. 524 BC Birthplace: Athens, Greece Death: 459 BC, Magnesia on the Maeander (likely of natural causes) Eva GreenBorn: July 5, 1980 Birthplace: Paris, France Artemisia I of CariaBorn: 5th Century BC Birthplace:Halicarnassus, Caria, Persia Death: 5th Century BC Rodrigo SantoroBorn: August 22, 1975 Birthplace: Petrópolis, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil XerxesBorn: 519 BC Birthplace: Persia Death: 465 BC, Persepolis, Persia(assassination by stabbing, likely by his political advisor Artabanus) Lena HeadeyBorn: October 3, 1973 Birthplace: Hamilton, Bermuda Queen GorgoBorn: c. 513 BC Birthplace: Sparta, Greece Though not Gorgo, this unidentified Spartan artifact from that period reflects how she would have presented herself. Immortals (300: Rise of an EmpireMovie)The Persian Imperial soldiers in the movie, inspired by Frank Miller's graphic novel '300' and his follow-up 'Xerxes.' Immortals (Persian History)The Immortals were an Imperial Guard division that protected the Persian rulers during the time of the Greco-Persian Wars. I made some research about Artemisia and I found out that she was very different from the movie. She was a very brave woman commander, but she was in love with Xerxes, so it's a complete different story. And I kind of got inspired more by Cleopatra, or Lady Macbeth, you know, kind of bloodthirsty characters... -Eva Green (JoBlo.com Interview, 2014)QUESTIONING THE STORY: ![]() Did Artemisia really have a hunger for warfare?Yes. Herodotus, also known as the "Father of History," makes numerous references to Artemisia as he recounts the events of the Greco-Persian war. He describes her as a ruler who did not lead passively, and instead, actively engaged herself in both adventure and warfare. "…her brave spirit and manly daring sent her forth to the war, when no need required her to adventure. Her name, as I said, was Artemisia..." -The Histories Was Artemisia really known for her cunning tactics and intelligence in combat?Yes. In exploring the 300: Rise of an Empire true story, we came upon the works of Polyaenus, the 2nd century Macedonian writer. He describes an example of the real Artemisia's intelligence in combat. He tells of how she would carry two flags on board her ship, one a Persian flag and the other the flag of her enemy, Greece. Artemisia would fly the Greek flag as she approached an unsuspecting Greek warship. Once she was upon her enemy, she would then unleash the full force of her Carian fleet. ![]() Similar to Artemisia (Eva Green) in the 300: Rise of an Empire movie, the real Artemisia, Queen of Caria, was a cunning conqueror with a penchant for warfare. In another example described by Polyaenus, Artemisia prepared a great festival to be held approximately a kilometer away from the ancient city of Latmus, which she planned to conquer. The festival drew the attention of the nearby city, and both civilians and soldiers left the city to see what the fuss was all about. After the city emptied itself, Artemisia launched a full-scale invasion, conquering Latmus with little resistance. Were the Greeks really angered that a woman had taken up arms against them?Yes. According to Herodotus, the united Greeks even offered a reward of 10,000 drachmas for Artemisia's capture. What do the events in 300: Rise of an Empire have to do with the events in the original movie 300?[/i][b]300: Rise of an Empire is a prequel, a side-sequel, and a sequel to the original film, 300 (2007), with the events in the follow-up taking place before, during, and after the events in the original. The first battle that takes place in the 300: Rise of an Empire movie is the Battle of Marathon in 490 BC. This happens ten years prior to the events in 2007's 300 movie. Athens victory over Persia at Marathon, Greece sets the stage for the motivations behind Xerxes's transformation into the movie's fictional God King. The second battle that occurs in 300: Rise of an Empire, the Battle of Artemisium (a 480 BC naval engagement), took place concurrently with the Battle of Thermopylae that unfolds in the original movie,300. It was Themistocles who proposed that the Greeks attempt to stop the Persian advance by confronting them on land at the narrow strait at Thermopylae. Leonidas and the 300 Spartans undertook the task, which is chronicled in the movie 300, with the Spartans eventually being overtaken by the Persian forces. At the same time, the Greek navy attempted to block the Persians on the water in the Straits of Artemisium. However, they were forced to retreat after the defeat at Thermopylae. ![]() Persian king Xerxes (Rodrigo Santoro), with ax in hand, sits atop his horse as he looks over his fallen enemy, the Spartan king Leonidas (Gerard Butler). From 300: Rise of an Empire. The third battle in Rise of an Empire, the Battle of Salamis, occurs after the Persians have advanced and burned Athens to the ground. Like in the movie, Themistocles had learned from the mistakes he made in the Battle of Artemisium, realizing that Greece likely did not stand a chance when confronting the larger Persian navy in the open water. He figured out that if the Greeks were to win, they would need to engage in close combat with the Persians in straits that were more narrow, such as those at Salamis. There, the large Persian warships could be outmaneuvered by the smaller Greek ships. Had the Athenian general Themistocles been born into poverty?Yes. According to historians Herodotus and Plutarch, the brave Athenian general Themistocles was not born into wealth. His father, Neocles, was an ambiguous Athenian citizen of modest means. It is believed that his mother was an immigrant. Other children kept Themistocles at a distance. It didn't bother him much, because as other children were off playing together, Themistocles was studying and sharpening his skills. As described by Plutarch, his teachers would say to him, "You, my boy, will be nothing insignificant, but great one way or another, either for good or for evil." In researching the 300: Rise of an Empire true story, we learned that Themistocles less than modest upbringing benefited him in the newly democratic government of Athens. He campaigned in the streets and could relate to the common and underprivileged in a way that no one had before, always taking time to remember voters' names. He was elected to the highest government office in Athens, Archon Eponymous, by the time he was thirty. Was Themistocles really responsible for Greek's strong navy?Yes. Themistocles always believed in building up the Athenian navy. After his political obstacle in the form of his rival Aristides had been voted into exile, Themistocles got his wish for a stronger navy. Knowing that a Persian invasion was imminent, the Athenians voted to build even more ships than Themistocles requested, leaving Athens with the most dominant naval force in all of Greece. ![]() Top: Actors stand on the deck of an Athenian trireme (ancient vessel) constructed on a sound stage for the movie. Bottom: A seaworthy reconstruction of a trireme, the Olympias, was launched in 1987. Did Themistocles really kill Xerxes's father, King Darius?No. The true story behind 300: Rise of an Empire reveals that Themistocles did not kill Xerxes's father, King Darius I of Persia (Darius the Great), with an arrow at the Battle of Marathon. King Darius died approximately four years later in 486 BC of failing health. It was then that Xerxes, the eldest son of Darius and Atossa, became King, ruling as Xerxes I. Did Xerxes really transform into a God King?No. As you probably guessed, the real Xerxes did not transform into a supernatural God King like in the movie (pictured below). In fact, Xerxes's motivation for his transformation did not even exist in real life, since Themistocles did not kill Xerxes's father at the Battle of Marathon. This highly fictionalized version of Xerxes comes from the mind of Frank Miller, the creator of the 300 graphic novel and the still unpublishedXerxes comic series. ![]() Persian king Xerxes (Rodrigo Santoro) transforms into the fictional God King in 300: Rise of an Empire. Was Artemisia's family murdered by Greek hoplites, after which she was taken as a slave?No. In the 300: Rise of an Empire movie, a young Artemisia (Caitlin Carmichael) watches as her family is murdered by a squad of Greek hoplites. She then spends several years being held as a sex slave in the bowels of a Greek slave ship. She is left to die in the street and is helped by a Persian warrior. She soon finds herself training with the finest warriors in the Persian Empire, hoping to one day exact revenge on Greece. This backstory for Artemisia was invented by Frank Miller and the filmmakers to explain the motivations behind Artemisia's ruthless thirst for vengeance in the film. Did Artemisia have a husband?Yes. Queen Artemisia of Caria, portrayed by Eva Green in the movie, became queen when she was wed to the King of Caria. Ancient Greek historian Herodotus never mentions the king by name in his writings titledThe Histories. Little is known about Artemisia's husband except that he died when their son was still a boy. Following his death, Artemisia became the ruler of the affluent kingdom of Caria. ![]() Left: Artemisia (Eva Green) clad in armor in 300: Rise of an Empire. Right: A 16th century coin-like portrait of Artemisia from Guillaume Rouillé's book Promptuarii Iconum Insigniorum.Did Artemisia have any children?Yes. Artemisia I of Caria had a son named Pisindelis (not shown in the movie), who was still a boy when his father died and his mother took over as ruler. Was Artemisia the only female commander in the Greco-Persian wars?Yes. According to the writings of Herodotus, Artemisia I of Caria was the only female commander in the Greco-Persian wars. Like in the movie, she was an ally of Xerxes and served as a commander in the Persian navy. Did the Greek city-states really band together against the invading Persian Army?Yes. In the 300: Rise of an Empire movie, we see Queen Gorgo of Sparta (Lena Headey) and Themistocles of Athens (Sullivan Stapleton) coming together to unite against the Persian Army. In real life, Athens and Sparta were indeed at the forefront of the alliance between the thirty Greek city-states. As the alliance took hold, Themistocles became the most powerful man in Athens. How were the Persians able to take Athens?Themistocles had convinced Athens to put every able-bodied man, including the Athenian warriors, on warships to stop the Persians in the Straits of Artemisium, leaving the city of Athens unprotected. Plutarch writes of the evacuation of Athens in his work Themistocles. "When the whole city of Athens were going on board, it afforded a spectacle worthy alike of pity and admiration, to see them thus send away their fathers and children before them, and, unmoved with their cries and tears, passed over into the island." ![]() While it appears that the Parthenon (right) is burning in the movie (left), it is actually the Old Parthenon that was destroyed by the Persian forces during the invasion. The iconic Parthenon that we are familiar with was actually built several decades later to replace the Old Parthenon. Did Themistocles win the Battle of Salamis by luring Xerxes into a trap?Yes. Themistocles had sent a messenger to Xerxes, telling the Persian King that the Greeks intended to flee by ships that were harbored in the isthmus of Corinth. Unlike in the movie, that messenger was not Ephialtes of Trachis, the disfigured hunchback who had betrayed the Spartans at Thermopylae. The real Ephialtes, who was not a disfigured hunchback, escaped to Thessaly and the Greeks offered a reward for his death. Thinking that the Greek forces were scattered, weak, and intending to flee, Xerxes believed the messenger and sent in his navy for an easy victory. To his surprise, his ships encountered the full force of the Greek navy ready to engage in battle. Did Themistocles and Artemisia share a moment of violent, unbridled passion? Artemisia (Eva Green) and Themistocles (Sullivan Stapleton) share a fictional moment of passion in 300: Rise of an Empire.No. In what has become the most talked about scene in the movie, Artemisia invites Themistocles on board her warship in an attempt to lure him into abandoning Greece and joining her side. Before he convinces her that he will never abandon Athens, the two engage in a sexual tussle deep below deck that is the closed doors equivalent of any of the movie's turbulent and ferocious battle sequences. In real life, not surprisingly, there is no record of a sexual encounter ever taking place between Themistocles and Artemisia. Despite this, the scene will very likely become what 300: Rise of an Empire is remembered for. Was Themistocles married?Yes. In the movie, Themistocles tells Artemisia that his only family is the Greek fleet, which he has spent his entire life readying to battle her. According to the writings of Plutarch, the real Themistocles did have a wife, Archippe, with whom he had three sons: Archeptolis, Polyeuctus, and Cleophantes. He also had two older sons, Neocles and Diocles. In addition to his sons, Themistocles had five daughters that are mentioned by Plutarch, at least one of whom he had later during a second marriage. Did Xerxes watch the Battle of Salamis as he sat in his throne perched atop a cliff?Yes. Xerxes watched the battle unfold high atop a nearby cliff on Mount Egaleo. Not shown in the movie, he witnessed Artemisia ramming another ship that had unknowingly crossed her path as she tried to get away from a pursuing Athenian trireme. Xerxes assumed it was an Athenian vessel that she had smashed through and was so impressed with Artemisia's ferocity in battle that he is reported to have said, "My men fight like women, and my women like men!" In reality and unbeknownst to Xerxes, Artemisia had bore straight through an ally ship. In doing so, Artemisia's pursuer gave up chase, believing that she was an ally of the Greeks. Fortunately for Artemisia, the ally ship sunk and its entire crew drowned, leaving no one behind to tell Xerxes the truth. -The Histories ![]() From high atop a cliff, Xerxes (Rodrigo Santoro) overlooks his fleet in the Straits of Salamis in the movie (left). A look from the real Mount Egaleo that overlooks the Straits of Salamis where the battle took place (right). Did Artemisia agree with Xerxes with regard to the Battle of Salamis?No. However, unlike in the film where Artemisia (Eva Green) demands that Xerxes order the Persian fleet to Salamis to finish off the Greeks, the real Artemisia had actually advised the Persian King Xerxes against the battle, arguing that it is not wise to engage the Greeks at sea. By this point, Xerxes had already burned the great city of Athens to the ground. Victory was within his grasp and his advisers/officers, except for Artemisia, told him that he must launch a naval assault to finish off the Greeks. Artemisia saw things differently. "Spare your ships," Artemisia advised, "and do not risk a battle; for these people are as much superior to your people in seamanship, as men to women. What so great need is there for you to incur hazard at sea? Are you not master of Athens, for which you did undertake your expedition? Is not Hellas subject to you? Not a soul now resists your advance…" -The Histories In the end, though Xerxes respected her advice, he still decided to launch a full-scale naval assault in September, 480 BC. Unfortunately for the Persians, it was the wrong decision and the Battle of Salamis proved to be the turning point in the war. Like in the 300: Rise of an Empire movie, the Persians were outmaneuvered and outfought by a Greek navy that was better prepared to wage war in the narrow straits between the mainland and the island of Salamis (known as the Straits of Salamis). ![]() Artemisia (Eva Green) readies her bow during the Battle of Salamis in the 300: Rise of an Empire movie.Did Artemisia die at the Battle of Salamis?No. The 300: Rise of an Empire true story reveals that unlike what is shown in the movie, the real Artemisia did not die at the hands of Themistocles in the Battle of Salamis. She survived the battle and did not meet her fate while engaging in combat. While Artemisia I of Caria did not perish in battle, it is unclear how she actually died. One legend reported by Photios, the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople from 858 to 867 and from 877 to 886, has Artemisia falling in love with a man named Dardanus. According to Photios, when Dardanus rejected her, Artemisia threw herself over the rocks of Leucas and was swallowed by the Aegean Sea. However, some historians argue that this action goes against her nature as a strong-willed conqueror. What happened to Artemisia after the Battle of Salamis?After being on the losing side of the battle that she had advised the Persian King against, Xerxes once again sought her advice. This time he acted on it, and he returned home, abandoning his campaign. Artemisia was entrusted with the care of Xerxes's children (the illegitimate sons he had taken on the campaign with him). She accompanied them to the town of Ephesus on the Ionian coast. Despite the Greeks continuing to engage in war for several more years, Artemisia and her people gained favor with the Persian Empire and prospered from the relationship. Where can I read Frank Miller's graphic novel Xerxes, on which 300: Rise of an Empireis based?[/i][b]As of the release of the 300: Rise of an Empire movie in March of 2014, Frank Miller had not yet completed his sequel to his 1998 comic series 300. In early 2011, Dark Horse Comics CEO Mike Richardson toldICv2 that Miller had finished two issues but had several Hollywood commitments that were keeping him from finishing the rest. These Hollywood obligations included acting as co-director for Sin City 2, due out in August 2014. The ICv2 article states that Frank Miller has every intention of finishing the Xerxes comic series. ![]() The God King Xerxes (Rodrigo Santoro) in the movie (left) and Xerxes from Frank Miller's unpublished (as of the film's release) graphic novel. [b]Why didn't director Zack Snyder, who directed the first film, also direct Rise of an Empire?In 2008, Variety reported that Zack Snyder, who directed 2007's 300[/i] starring Gerard Butler, was interested in directing an adaptation of Frank Miller's follow-up graphic novel Xerxes (the original 300 movie was based on Miller's 1998 graphic novel 300). However, Zack Snyder instead chose to direct the Superman rebootMan of Steel, released in 2013. As a result, Noam Murro was brought in to direct 300: Rise of an Empirewith Snyder acting as a producer and co-writer (Deadline Hollywood). |
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۱:۳۳, ۷/فروردین/۹۳
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۷/فروردین/۹۳ ۹:۱۷ توسط عبدالرحمن.)
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چند هفته پیش که رفته بودم سفر با یکی از اقوام بیرون بودیم
یه مکالمه خیلی کوتاهی رخ داد که من نوشتمش که تاپیک بشه ولی منتشرش نکردم به حالت طنز نوشتم اون موقع که الان به خاطر این ایام اصلاحش کردم که مرتبطه به فیلم 300 و امثال فیلم 300 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| امروز یکی از اعضای خانواده در یکی از شهرها با یک مغازه دار یه مکالمه چند جمله ای رو داشت بنظرم رسید که مفید واقع بشه ( تاپیک تصرف قلوب) بحث به انگلیس کشیده شده (البته حرف عادی نه دعوا) عضو خانواده: انگلیسیای ملعون یه ضرب المثلی دارن که .... مغازه دار: حالا چرا ملعون!؟ عضو خانواده: هر کسی این براش سوال باشه ایرانیا و هندیا نباید براشون سوال باشه ( حداقلش اشغال گری و ...) مغازه دار: خب ایران هم پدر یونان رو در اورد!!!! من : :mat: کارگردان فیلم 300::D الیزابت منحوس::D ابلیس: :happy: اثر تبلیغاتو داشتید؟ |
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۲۱:۳۱, ۸/فروردین/۹۳
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۸/فروردین/۹۳ ۲۱:۳۴ توسط PWLG.)
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نویسنده تاپیک، حداقل به خودت زحمت ترجمه هم ندادی. متن هم که نامنظمه. خب مجبوری متن انگلیسی میگذاری؟ کی میخونه؟
عبدالرحمن هم حرف جالبی زد ولی قبلش بازم تبلیغ کرد واسه خودش. داداش مگه اینجا جای پیام بازرگانیه؟ هر دفعه که دیدم شما لینک گذاشتی، بدون شک تاپیک خودتون بوده. |
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۲:۲۰, ۹/فروردین/۹۳
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PWLG
برادر حرفت متین من نخواستم این برداشت از موضوع برداشت بشه من اگه اینجوری متن گذاشتم نمی خواستم خونده یا تحلیل بشه فقط می خواستم با سند اطلاع رسانی کنم که سایت history vs hollywood که از اسمش مشخصه هدف و اصولش چیه درباره فیلم تحلیل داشته همین. من اصلا قصد نداشتم تحلیل ها را بخونیم یا اونا رو بررسی کنیم فقط خواستم نظرات بقیه رو ببینم و بدونم .می خواستم نطرات خودمونو بفهمم همین با این حال ممنون ازت امیدوارم تونسته باشم منظورمو رسونده باشم! |
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۱۲:۳۵, ۹/فروردین/۹۳
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قسمت دوم فیلم سینمایی ۳۰۰ که ماجراهای آن فصل دیگری از نبرد جنگجویان اسپارت در برابر حملات سپاه خشایارشا پادشاه هخامنشی است دو هفته پیش روی پرده آمد.به گزارش "كافه سينما" به نقل از "بي بي سي" قسمت اول این فیلم که از نظر پرداخت تصویری شمایی نیمه انیمیشن دارد، در سال ۲۰۰۶ اکران شد و ایرانی ها به خاطر آنچه تحریف وقایع تاریخی و توهین به فرهنگ ایران باستان می دانستند به شدت از آن فیلم انتقاد کردند.اما قسمت دوم این فیلم با عنوان ۳۰۰: ظهور یک امپراتوری تا چه حد به حقایق تاریخی وفادار است؟ پل کارتلج پروفسور فرهنگ یونانی در دانشگاه کمبریج پنج اشتباه تاریخی این فیلم را برمی شمارد. ![]() عنوان فيلم ۱- ایراد اول در عنوان فیلم است. عنوان فیلم "۳۰۰: ظهور یک امپراتوری" است. اما منظور ظهور و قدرت گیری کدام امپراتوری است؟ اگر منظور"امپراتوری آتنی" است باید گفت که این امپراتوری حداقل دو سال پس از حوادثی که فیلم روی آن تمرکز دارد یعنی نبردهای دریایی آرتمیسیوم و سالامیس که هر دوی آنها در سال ۴۸۰ قبل از میلاد روی دادند، به مرور شکل گرفت. رودریگو سانتورو در نقش خشایارشای جوان ۲- داستان فیلم با پرتاب یک تیر اعجاب آمیز که هیچ حقیقت تاریخی ندارد آغاز می شود. این تیر را یک قهرمان آتنی به نام تمیستوکل در جریان نبرد ماراتون در حومه شهر آتن در سال ۴۹۰ قبل از میلاد از کمان خود رها می کند و در کمال شگفتی داریوش بزرگ، پادشاه ایران را می کشد. در کنار او، خشایارشا پسر و جانشین وی ایستاده است. هر چند داریوش پادشاه ایران این کارزار نظامی را علیه یونان شروع کرد که در ماراتون با مقاومت روبرو شده و شکست خورد، ولی نه او و نه پسرش خشایارشا هیچکدام در این نبرد حاضر نبودند. اوا گرین در نقش آرتمیس ۳- فیلم از صحنه نبرد ماراتون که در آن سپاه ایران شکست خورد و از نظر تاریخی می توان آن را دلیل حمله بعدی سپاه ایران در دوران خشایارشا برای گرفتن انتقام از آن شکست قلمداد کرد، یکباره به ده سال بعد خیز برمی دارد و حرکت ناوگان دریایی سپاه ایران به سوی قلمرو یونان را نشان می دهد. فرماندهی این ناوگان با یک زن یونانی است، آرتمیس، ملکه هالیکارناس که امروزه بودروم نامیده می شود. طبق اسناد و نوشته های هرودوت اندیشمند یونانی و مورخ جنگ های ایران و یونان که در همین دوران می زیسته، آرتمیس یک شخصیت واقعی است. او یک ملکه یونانی بود که در نبرد سالامیس در اردوی ایرانی ها می جنگید. ولی او فرمانده ناوگان دریایی ایرانی ها نبود. اسناد نشان می دهد که از حدود ۶۰۰ کشتی که در آن نبرد شرکت داشتند ملکه آرتمیس فقط چند کشتی در اختیار سپاه ایران قرار داده بود. سالیوان استیپلتون در نقش تمیستوکل ۴- سازندگان این فیلم یک صحنه معاشقه طولانی و عریان را در این فیلم گنجانده اند. این معاشقه کاملا ساختگی و تخیلی بین دو دشمن یعنی آرتمیس و تمیستوکل و درست در فاصله دو نبرد آرتمیسیوم و سالامیس روی می دهد و طبیعتا آنطور که در داستانهای تخیلی رایج است به عنوان نوعی دیپلماسی بین دو دشمن ارائه می شود.در ضمن طوری تصویر شده که گویا سپاه یونان در این نبرد شکست خورد در صورتی که در عالم واقعیت در این نبرد هیچیک از دو طرف نتوانستند به پیروزی برسند. ملکه گرگو ۵- اما مهمترین نکته غلط تاریخی که در عین حال قرار است اوج حماسی این داستان باشد، مقطعی است که سپاه یونان به فرماندهی تمیستوکل برای پیروزی در نبرد سالامیس به کمک نیروی دریایی قدرتمند اسپارت نیاز پیدا می کند و ناوگان دریایی اسپارت به فرماندهی یک ملکه یونانی دیگر، گورگو (بیوه لئونیداس که قهرمان بخش اول فیلم ۳۰۰ بود)، درست سر به زنگاه از راه می رسد.اما در عالم واقعیت اسپارت در آن نبرد دریایی فقط ۱۶ کشتی در اختیار ناوگان دریایی یونان قرار داده بود که مجموع آن حدود ۴۰۰ فروند بود. و درست مثل کمک آرتمیس به سپاه ایران، حضور اسپارت و کشتی های آنان در این نبرد و سرانجام آن که یک پیروزی قاطع و بی چون و چرا برای یونانی ها بود تاثیر چندانی نداشت. بي بي سي
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برام جالب بود که خبرگزاری ین المللی قرآن این مطلب رو روی سایت رفته گفتم اینجا ببینید خالی از لطف نیست دست مریزاد!!
چرا پس از گذشت شش سال از تولید فیلم «300» و در آستانه اکران قسمت دوم این فیلم، هنوز نتوانستهایم بجز اعتراضات مقطعی، عملکرد مثبتی در مقابل آن انجام دهیم؟! شش سال پیش که فیلم «300» روی پرده سینماهای جهان رفت بازخوردهای فراوانی را در داخل کشورمان به همراه داشت، حتی این اعتراضات به نماز جمعه تهران هم کشیده شد. این کمیک استریپ توسط کمپانی برادران وارنر تولید شد و کارگردانی آن را زاک اسنایدر برعهده داشت؛ فیلمی که توانست در گیشه آمریکای شمالی و اکران جهانی فروش موفق (456 میلیون دلار) داشته باشد. «300» روایتی است از نبرد ترموپیل که در سال ۴۸۰ پیش از میلاد بین سپاه ایران در زمان خشایارشاه با سپاه اسپارت در زمان لئونیداس اتفاق افتادهاست. در این داستان، ۳۰۰ نفر از رزمآوران اسپارت در برابر سپاه پرشمار خشایارشاه مقاومت میکنند. این نبرد در تنگه ترموپیل در نزدیکی آتن رخ میدهد و حدود سه روز به طول میانجامد. ارتش امپراتوری هخامنشی در برابر ۳۰۰ رزمآور اسپارتی در تنگه ترموپیل متوقف میشود و تنها زمانی موفق میشود آنها را شکست بدهد که در اثر خیانت یک یونانی، راه دیگری برای دور زدن آنها و محاصره اسپارتیها پیدا میشود. استفاده از پرده آبی در 300 در این فیلم سینمایی از تکنیک پرده آبی استفاده شده است؛ فناوری که در سالهای بعد الهامبخش فیلمهای بسیاری شد. در این میان به دلیل استقبالی که از کار به عمل آمد یک بازی رایانهای نیز بر مبنایش تولید شد، اما هدف از نگارش این مطالب، بحث درباره «300» نیست، زیرا در زمان اکران فیلم به اندازه کافی درباره آن سخن رانده شد، بلکه منظور این است که بدانیم پس از گذشت شش سال و در آستانه اکران قسمت دوم این فیلم ما چه عملکردی داشتهایم. تا به آنجایی که نگارنده به خاطر دارد تا به امروز به جز اعتراضات ساماندهی شده و فرمایشی هیچ عملکرد مثبتی در مقابل این اثر نداشتهایم، حتی از ساخت یک فیلم یا سریال که درباره فرهنگ ایران باشد دریغ کردهایم، به نحوی که این تصور را در اذهان ایجاد میکنیم که خواهان پرداختن به آن برهه از تاریخ کشورمان نیستیم، حتی زمانی که نویسنده این یاداشت درباره کارکرد سیما در پرداختن به ایران باستان از عزتالله ضرغامی سؤالی پرسید، وی از سریال «چهل سرباز» به عنوان کاری خوب یاد کرد! کم کاری سینما و تلویزیون در مقابل فیلمهایی چون «300» حال کسانی که مخاطب سینما و تلویزیون هستند باید قضاوت کنند که آیا یک سریال متوسط با سرمایه محدود قادر است پاسخگو و معرف فرهنگ باستانی کشورمان باشد؟ از این دسته سؤالات میتوان بسیار مطرح کرد، به ویژه در حوزه سینما که ما حتی یک کار نیز نداشتهایم! با این وجود باید منتظر بنشینیم تا در زمان اکران بخش دوم این فیلم که به زودی انجام میشود باز هم شاهد اعتراضات گسترده مسئولان و پخش برنامههای مختلف نقد در تلویزیون باشیم؛ رویکردی که تنها عکسالعملی عاجزانه است که نتیجهای به همراه ندارد. در پایان این یاداشت نظر یکی از منتقدان مطرح کشورمان، مسعود فراستی را هم جویا شدهایم که درباره واکنش ما (سینما و تلویزیون) درباره فیلم «300» اظهار نظر کردهاند. وی در این باره میگوید: مسئولان ما در سینما و تلویزیون هیچ کاری در مقابل فیلمهایی نظیر «300» انجام ندادهاند. وقتی می گویم هیچ کاری، منظور به معنای مطلق آن است، هر چند در این میان حرف و شعارهای بسیاری مطرح شده که حتی یک نمونه از آن رنگ واقعیت به خود نگرفت. |
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