روباه (روباه چی میگه؟)؛ این بار لوسیفر/ابلیس با سیمای روباه

[Justice Bringer]

سلام،

آهنگ *روباه (روباه چی میگه) - (The Fox (What does the Fox Say* از Ylvis با بیش از 414 میلیون بازدید در سایت یوتیوب بدون احتساب پخش تلوزیونی بدون شک پر بازدیدترین ویدئو موزیک سال 2013 تو دنیا بوده.

اما با نگاهی به مضمون این آهنگ متوجه شدیم که این آهنگ نه چندان جالب از خوانندگانی! بی نام و نشان چطور به این جایگاه نزد مخاطبان و رسانه دست پیدا کرد.

نمیخوام سرتون رو درد بیارم، خودتون میتونید سابقۀ برادران نروژی Ylvisåker رو تو سایت ویکیپدیا بخونید. و همینطور جایزه ها و



یه ضرب میریم سراغ Lyric این موزیک! و بعد تحلیلش میکنیم.


یه جوری ترجمه میکنم که مضمون آهنگ رو بهفمید !

متن شعر! آهنگ بهمراه ترجمۀ گلچین شده

Dog goes woof
Cat goes meow
Bird goes tweet
and mouse goes squeek

سگ میگه هاپ

گربه میگه میو

گنجیشک میگه جیک

...

Cow goes moo
Frog goes croak
and the elephant goes toot

گاو میگه مااااااا

قورباقه میگه قور

...

Ducks say quack
and fish go blub
and the seal goes ow ow ow ow ow

اردک میگه کوآک

...

But theres one sound
That no one knows
What does the fox say

اما یه صدایی هست

که هیچکس نمیدونه

روباه چی میگه ؟

Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding
What the fox say

دینگ دینگ دینگ دینگ ...

...

Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow
Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow
Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow
What the fox say

...

Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho
Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho
Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho
What the fox say

...

Joff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff
Tchoff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff
Joff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff
What the fox say

[ازین جا به بعد شعر به توصیف روباه می پردازه]

جاهایی که مهم باشه رو بولد یا رنگی می کنم!

Big blue eyes
Pointy nose
Chasing mice
and digging holes

چشمای آبی بزرگ

دماغ تیز

می دوئه دنبال موشا

و سوراخ می کَنه

Tiny paws
Up the hill
Suddenly youre standing still

پنجه های کوچیک

بالای تپه

یه دفعه تو ثابت می ایستی

Your fur is red
So beautiful
Like an angel in disguise

پوستت قرمزه

خیلی قشنگ

مثل یه فرشته که استتار کرده باشه

But if you meet
a friendly horse
Will you communicate by
mo-o-o-o-orse
mo-o-o-o-orse
mo-o-o-o-orse

اما اگه تو ملاقات کنی

با یک اسب که دوستته

آیا باهاش با مورس ارتباط برقرار میکنی ؟

How will you speak to that
ho-o-o-o-orse
ho-o-o-o-orse
ho-o-o-o-orse
What does the fox say

چطوری با اون اسب حرف می زنی ؟

روباه چی میگه ؟

Jacha-chacha-chacha-chow
Chacha-chacha-chacha-chow
Chacha-chacha-chacha-chow
What the fox say

...

Fraka-kaka-kaka-kaka-kow
Fraka-kaka-kaka-kaka-kow
Fraka-kaka-kaka-kaka-kow
What the fox say

...

A-hee-ahee ha-hee
A-hee-ahee ha-hee
A-hee-ahee ha-hee
What the fox say

...

A-oo-oo-oo-ooo
Woo-oo-oo-ooo
What does the fox say

...

The secret of the fox
Ancient mystery
Somewhere deep in the woods
I know youre hiding
What is your sound
Will we ever know
Will always be a mystery
What do you say

راز روباه

معمای قدیمی ـه

یه جایی تو اعماق این جنگل

من میدونم تو مخفی شدی

صدات چطوریه

آیا اصلا ما خواهیم فهمید ؟

که تو چی میگی (حرفت چیه) ؟

Youre my guardian angel
Hiding in the woods
What is your sound

تو فرشتۀ محافظ منی ؟

که تو جنگل ها پنهان شدی

صدات چه شکلی ـه ؟

(Fox Sings)
Wa-wa-way-do Wub-wid-bid-dum-way-do Wa-wa-way-do
Will we ever know

آیا ما خواهیم فهمید ؟

(Fox Sings)
Bay-budabud-dum-bam
I want to

من میخوام

(Fox sings)
Mama-dum-day-do
I want to
I want to know

من میخوام ...

من میخوام بدونم

(Fox sings)
Abay-ba-da bum-bum bay-do

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دوستانی که تاپیکای ما رو تو بخش سینما دنبال میکنن مطلع هستن که اون قسمتایی که قرمز کردیم همشون از صفات و خصوصیت هایی هست که تو رسانه های غربی (بالاخص هالیوود) برای لوسیفرشون بر میشمارن.

این روباهی که تو این موزیک بهش اشاره میکنن در واقع همون لوسیفر هست. نیاز به دقت نداره که بفهمیم ابیات این شعر دری وری بود !!! مخصوصا اونجایی که به روباه میگه: "تو فرشتۀ محافظ منی" !!!!!!!!!! یا ابتدای آهنگ که میگه: "چشمای آبی بزرگ" در حالیکه چشمای روباهای بیچاره اصلا آبی نیست. حالا شاید یه گونه از روباها باشن که چشماشون آبی ... ولی نه دیگه همشون. یعنی میتونیم اینجوری بگیم که طرف با هر زوری که بوده میخواسته اِلمان ها بچپونه توی شعرش !!!


از نمادگرایی های داخل ویدئو موزیک این آهنگ هم اینه که از یه پارتی شروع میشه که همۀ آدما ماسک حیوون زدن که میدونیم تو مراسم های شیطان پرستی همچین کاری انجام میشده و حالا به جامعه غرب کشوندنش. سریال True Detective رو اگه کسی دیده باشه حتی تو این سریال هم به این مسئله اشاره میشه.


تصاویری از ویدئو موزیک





(پارتی انسان های حیوان نما)





(این نقاب رو تو بعضی فیلمای مشخصا مرتبط با شیطان مثل The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnasus یا Season of The Witch یا مثلا انمیشن I Pet Goat II دیدیم و نمیدونم چه معنی ای براشون داره)




(همین نقاب تو انیمیشن I Pet Goat II)




(باز هم همون نقاب تو فیلم The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnasus)





(خواننده در لباس جناب روباه)





(خود جناب روباه!)



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پی نوشت: هیچی ندارم بگم !!!

[Eve]

اون بحث مرغ مقلد و راغ مقلده!ولی لطفا حتما تاپیکش رو بزنید....هرچند انقدر حداقل کتابش عالی بود که نقاط منفیش به چشم نمیومد.

[Reza2035]

نقل قول:توی فیلم رو دارم میگمااااااااااا ... نه تو حقیقت. ضمن اینکه اینم باید در نظر بگیریم که اسم زاغ مقلد (Mockingbird) بطور کامل تو این فیلم استفاده نشده و بجاش کلمۀ (Mockingjay) استفاده شده که خودش میتونه قابل تأمل باشه.

بیخیال ... تاپیک منحرف میشه !!! ایشالا تاپیکش رو یا شما بزن یا خودم میزنم ، صحبت می کنیم.

علاقه ای به شروع بحث ندارم !
شما میخوای روش استدلالی خودت رو وارد بحث کنی , منم هی بگم نه اینها همه اش فلسفه است و بزنیم توی سر همدیگه و هیچ نقطه ی اشتراکی هم نداشته باشیم .

[sadegh313]

دوستان من فقط یه سوال دارم: بحث در مورد روباه بود. چجوری به ققنوس کشیده شد؟؟؟

ققنوس رو اگه میخاید بدونید نماد چی هست برید فیلم X-Men: The Last Stand رو ببینید.


داستان ققنوس و پرنده های دیگر هم به جایی نمیرسه. گرچه فقط نباید از روی شکل پرنده قضاوت کرد. فاکتورهای دیگه ای هم هست.

این روباهه تو فیلمای دیگه ای هم بوده نظیر رابین هود که تو کارتون دیزنی بود و fantastic mr. fox

[Justice Bringer]

(۹/خرداد/۹۳ ۱۴:۰۲)Eve نوشته است:  اون بحث مرغ مقلد و راغ مقلده!ولی لطفا حتما تاپیکش رو بزنید....

آره فک کنم سوتی داد !!! ولی در کل فک نکنم چیزی *زاغ مقلد* تو دنیای واقعی وجود داشته باشه !!! داره ؟!؟

(۹/خرداد/۹۳ ۲۳:۴۱)sadegh313 نوشته است:  دوستان من فقط یه سوال دارم: بحث در مورد روباه بود. چجوری به ققنوس کشیده شد؟؟؟

ققنوس رو اگه میخاید بدونید نماد چی هست برید فیلم X-Men: The Last Stand رو ببینید.

در مورد روباه فک کنم انقدر واضح بود کسی بحثی نداشت !!!

منتظرم همۀ فیلمای x-men بیاد یه جا ببینم !!!

نقل قول:شما میخوای روش استدلالی خودت رو وارد بحث کنی , منم هی بگم نه اینها همه اش فلسفه است و بزنیم توی سر همدیگه و هیچ نقطه ی اشتراکی هم نداشته باشیم .

هرجور صلاح ـه !!!

[farshad.alight]

سریال وایکینگس هم خیلی طبعات نامربوطی داره از بی دینی!

[captaincharisma]

این متن رو بدنبالش بودم که اینجا بذارم ولی کتاب رو گم کرده بودم
که اثبات همون بنو ققنوس و حواصیل و شرح کاملی دارد
اینجوری نیگاه نکنید ترجمه پا خودتون هم خدا میخوای هم خرما

The Legend and History of the Benu Bird and the Phoenix

The Benu Bird

The Benu Bird is linked to that of the phoenix. Both are birds of the sun, both are self created, rather than being born from other creatures, both undergo death and become symbols of regeneration. The Egyptian sunbird is identified with Re, the Sun God. The word Benu in Egyptian means both purple heron and palm tree. The Benu was identified with the Temple of the Sun God at Heliopolis, which was revered by the Egyptians as the sacred mound from whence the Sun god, in his aspect of the Benu Bird, arose cyclically to renew Egypt; another feature which was shared by both the phoenix and the Benu Bird.

The Benu Bird was also known to be a symbol of Osiris and is said to have sprung from the heart of Osiris as a living symbol of God, thus renewing itself. The Benu is thought to have originated in either Egypt or Arabia and by one account, spends most of its life in Phoenicia.

A festival to the Benu is noted on the 12th Day of Khoiak in the Season of Aket (the Inundation); it was the Day of Transformation of the Benu. Offer to the Benu in your house on this day. It refers to the Benu as a personification of the everlasting Sun God.

The names of the Benu Bird and the Benben are derived from the same root Bn, which means ‘ascension’ or ‘to rise’; it is also thought that it comes from the root word weben meaning ‘to shine’ or ‘shining’. It is this image, in the form of a hawk, which is passed on to the Pharaoh, who is the living ‘Principle of Ascension’.

Description

There are many descriptions of the Benu Bird ranging from various colours to types of birds. It has ranged from a heron (Book of the Dead, depicted with a long straight beak, and a two-feathered crest, the physical manifestation of both Ra and Osiris) to an eagle like bird, a yellow wagtail (Pyramid Texts, serving as a manifestation of Atum), and a golden hawk with a heron’s head. The colouring of its plumage is also varied. Usually part red and part gold it has also said to be royal purple with a golden head and neck or a plum coloured body with scarlet back and wings feathers, a golden head and a sweeping tail of rose and azure. It is described as a large bird. The size of the Benu is the only thing that seems consistent, but also ambiguous, as large can mean many sizes.

Myth or Reality

The Myth of the Egyptian Benu Bird, which was usually depicted as a heron, could have come from a new species of heron found in recent excavations in Umm-an-Ner. When the bones were reconstructed, it was found to be a large heron, larger than any now living. It is speculated that the Egyptians may have seen this large bird only as an extremely rare visitor or from tales of it from travellers who had trading expeditions to the Arabian Seas. Another possibility is the Goliath Heron, now found, among other places, on the coast of the Red Sea, but which may have been more widespread in ancient times.

The Greek Legend

The Greeks knew the Egyptian Benu Bird as the Phoenix. A legendary bird without parents and offspring it nurtured itself on sunlight and sea spray. Brilliant in appearance, its feathers were gold, red and white; its eyes were green as the sea. A semi-immortal being, the Phoenix had a lifespan of 500 years and when about to die, it drew new life from the primal elements of fire and water and was born again. It would build its nest in the form of a funeral pyre and a single clap of its wings would ignite it. Then, when consumed by the flames, a young Phoenix would arise from its own ashes. The Greeks considered the appearance of the Phoenix as a herald of important events to come.

It is thought by many that the myths surrounding the Phoenix were a misunderstanding of the Egyptian myths if the Benu Bird. It is possible that the legend comes from what Herodotus wrote of the Benu Bird.

“I have not seen a phoenix myself, except in paintings, for it is very rare and visits the country (so at least they say in Heliopolis) only at intervals of 500 years, on the occasion of the death of the parent bird. To judge by the paintings, its plumage is partly golden, partly red, and in shape and size it is exactly like an eagle. There is a story about the phoenix: it brings its parent in a lump of myrrh all the way from Arabia and buries the body in the Temple of the Sun. To perform the feat, the bird first shapes some myrrh into a sort of egg as big as it finds, by testing, that it can carry; then it hollows the lump out, puts its father inside and smears more myrrh over the opening. The egg-shaped lump is then just the same weight as it was originally. Finally, it is carried by the bird to the Temple of the Sun in Egypt.”

In Pliny’s account, a small worm appeared from the body of the phoenix the metamorphosed into a bird, thus the phoenix was reborn.

The Egyptian Legend (The Creation Myth of Heliopolis)

One of the creation myths of Heliopolis tells of the Benu Bird. IT gives an account of the first dawn and a heron skimming over the waters of the Nun until it comes to rest on a rock. As it did so, it opened its beak and a cry echoed over the water of the Nun. The world was filled with ‘that which it had not known’; the cry of the Benu Bird ‘determined what is and is not to be’. Thus, the Benu Bird, as an aspect of Atum, brought life and light to the world.

The Benu Bird was said to have created itself from a fire which burned at the top of the sacred persea tree in Heliopolis and it rested on the Benben Stone, a pillar topped by a pyramid shaped stone (an obelisk), which became the most sacred fetish worshipped in the city. On the Metternich Stele, Isis says to her son, Horus: ‘Thou are the Great Benu who was born on the incense tree in the House of the Great Prince of Heliopolis”. The capstones of the pyramids and the pyramids themselves were thought to be a representation of the Benben Stone and the Kings buried beneath were under the direct protection of the Sun God.

The Benu’s cry had begun the cycle of time, which the Egyptians believed to be divinely appointed. Divided as such: the twenty four hour day with twelve hours for both daytime and nighttimes, the ten days that comprised the Egyptian week, the thirty day month, the year of twelve months (365 days) and periods of 1460 years in which the civil and astronomical calendars diverged and then coincided again. The Temple of the Benu Bird at Heliopolis was primarily concerned with the regulation of the calendar and the Benu Bird itself became the deity concerned with the division of time.

The Benu Bird in Magic

The following spell from the Egyptian Book of the Dead is one for being transformed into a phoenix or Benu Bird.

Spell 83: Spell for being transformed into a phoenix.

I have flown up like the primeval ones,
I have become Khepri,
I have grown as a plant,
I have clad myself as a tortoise,
I am the essence of every God,
I am the seventh of those seven Uraei who came into being in the West,
Horus who makes the brightness with his person,
That God who was against Seth,
Thoth who was among you in that judgement of Him who presides over Letopolis together with the Souls of Heliopolis,
The flood which was between them.

I have come on the day when I appear in glory with the strides of the gods,
For I am Khons who subdued the Lords.
As for him who knows this pure spell,
It means going out into the day after death and being transformed at will,
Being in the suite of Wennefer
Being content with the food of Osiris,
Having invocation offerings,
Seeing the sun;
It means being hale on earth with Re and being vindicated with Osiris,
And nothing evil shall have power over him
A matter a million times true.

From at least the reign of Tutankhamun, the heron or Benu Bird appears on heart scarabs. These amulets were used to protect the heart, which was considered the source of life by the ancient Egyptians.