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مباحثی پیرامون تضاد علم و دین
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۱۵:۵۳, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۵:۵۸ توسط وحید110.)
شماره ارسال: #1
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(۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۵:۴۳)مهرداد نوشته است: بله هر چی مخالف نظر و عقیده ی شما باشد مضر و بده خودارضایی کاملا بی خطر هست و در بین تمام انسانها مشترک است چون عقیده ما خدایی است و خداوند گار عالم از همه دانا تر است . خدای دانای کل . همه چیز دان ما مهربان هم هست و دستوراتی برای زندگی ابدی بندگانش فرستاده . شما به علم ناقص استناد میکنید که تا دیروز میگفت چاقی بد است امروز میگوید خوب است و فردا هم معلوم نیست چه میگوید.و اطمینان داشته باشید تا 100 سال دگر بسیاری از عقاید خود را عوض خواهد کرد . . ما به علم لایزال خداوند تکیه میکنیم . این را بخوانید در مورد خود ارضایی این عقاید قدیم علم پزشکی بود که ان را بی خطر میدانست در مورد تحقیقات جدید مطالعه بفرمایید در ضمن کی گفته بین تمام انسانها مشترک است؟!!!!!!!! در مورد مقالاتتان . لطفا منابع ان را هم ذکر کنید . در کپی این نوشتار به نظر میرسد به منابعی استناد شده باشد این امار شما هم مربوط به جوامع غربی است (اگر صحیح باشد ) موفق باشی |
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۱۷:۳۰, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۷:۳۷ توسط وحید110.)
شماره ارسال: #31
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خوب انگار متوجه نیستید اقای مهرداد من میگم با توجه به اینکه علم پزشکی ناقص و پر از اشتباهه . به تایید خودتون و همه عقلای عالم
اصلا فرض میکنم علم کنونی پزشکی تایید کنه که خود ارضایی بی خطره . من اطمینان دارم کمی که علم پزشکی کامل بشه به سخن خداوند دانای کل خواهد رسید . همانگونه که به بسیاری از دستورات پزشکی بهداشتی اسلام رسیده اند شما میفرمایید با وجود علم ناقص نمیتونم کاری نکنم و بگم شاید یه روزی رد بشه و یا خلافش ثابت بشه من میگم با توجه به اینکه منبع کا عقل کل هست کامل است و همه چیز را می داند این مشکل را نداریم اتفاقا نا خواسته مهر تاییدی به عقیده ما یعنی اسلام زدید این رو حتما بخونید پس من ترجیه میدم به سخن خداوند متعال که حکیم و علیم است و خود این جهان را خلق کرده و اشنا به تمام رموز ان است و در قالب دین اسلام بیان شده عمل کنم . اقا مهرداد اگر می خواهی راجع به قران بحث کنی در تاپیک دیگری این کار رو انجام بده . فعلا بحث چیز دیگریست . این هایی که کپی کردی رو جواب داده اند شما می خوای از جایی کپی کنی منم جوابش رو از جای دیگه کپی کنم . به نظرم بیهوده باشه . ضمن اینکه هر وقت این بحث تمام شد بنده با شما وارد بحث جدیدی میشوم از شاخه به شاخه شدن بپرهیزید . که عین سفسطه است برای اینکه بدونم باید مستند من برای بحث با شما چی میتونه باشه بفرمایید از چه مکتب فکری پیروی میکنید |
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۱۷:۳۶, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۷:۴۱ توسط مهرداد.)
شماره ارسال: #32
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اگه هم خدا وجود داشته باشد و اگه هم بگه خودارضایی نکنید که نگفته حالا فرض کنیم گفته با تمام این فرضها این که خودارضایی چه ضرراتی داره باید یه پزشک بگه نه تو که در این زمینه سوادی نداری
که علم هم می گه چون ممکنه در برخی علاقه به ازدواج رو کم کنه اون هم فقط در برخی اون هم هنوز ثابت نشده اگه این جوریه هر کی نماز نخونه کور می شه خدا که عقلش کامله می گه نماز مفیده خوب اگه نخونی کور می شی تو می گی نه نمی شی با توجه به این استناد پزشکی من می گم مگه علم کامله تو می گی نه من می گم من ترجیح می دم به خدا اعتماد کنم پس نماز نخونی کور می شی خودت می دونی که برخی می گن نماز در حوزه ی جسمی هم فواید داره البته من قبول ندارم ولی خوب می شه نماز رو هم مثال زد هر کی هم که به فرج زن نگاه کنه کور می شه حدیث داریم از پیامبر نگاه کردن به الت تناسلی زن باعث کوری می شه تو می گی نه این حقیقت نداره علم پزشکی می گه نمی شه من می گم مگه علم کامله تو می گی نه من میگم پس حرفت غلطه اینم حدیثش از حضرت امام جعفر صادق (علیه السلام) نقل شده است که حضرت رسالت پناه صلی الله علیه و آله به حضرت امیرالموًمنین علیه السلام وصیت فرمود که: «یا علی! ایستاده با زن خود جماع مکن که آن فعل خران است، و اگر فرزندی بهم رسد مانند خران بر رختخواب بول کند. یا علی! در ساعت اول شب جماع مکن که اگر فرزندی بهم رسد بسا که ساحر باشد. و به فرج زن خود نگاه مکن که باعث کوری فرزند شود، و در وقت جماع سخن مگو که اگر فرزندی حاصل شود بسا که لال باشد. |
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۱۷:۴۲, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۷:۴۳ توسط وحید110.)
شماره ارسال: #33
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ببین دوست عزیز خدا حکم رو بیان کرده و دلیل رو نگفته . انچه که ما میگیم برای توجیه حکم در حد همون علم ناقص بشریه . اما به مستندمون ایمان داریم . و میدونیم کار بی دلیل و باطل ازش سر نمیزنه .
در مورد مثالت در مورد نماز نخوندن و کور شدن متوجه نشدم چی رو می خوای برسونی!! کسی نگفته اگر نماز نخونی کور میشی ... برای اینکه بدونم باید مستند من برای بحث با شما چی میتونه باشه بفرمایید از چه مکتب فکری پیروی میکنید یا حق |
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۱۷:۴۵, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۷:۴۸ توسط مهرداد.)
شماره ارسال: #34
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خوب ائمه هم نگفتن استمنا کنی کور می شی
اگه هم می گی که خدا دلیل رو بیان نکرده خوب پس نمی تونی بگی اگه اگهه استمنا منع شده پس این ضررات رو داره این موردی است که باید پزشک بگه نه تو در مورد نگاه کردن به فرج زن چی می گی ؟اون رو که امامان هم گفتند هاهاها؟؟؟؟ فرض کن خدا گفته استمنا نکن این که استمنا به خاطر منع خدا چه ضررات جسمی و روحی داره رو باید پزشکا بگن مگه نه اگه همین جوری الکی باشه که من می گم نماز نخوندن خوردن گوشت خوک و نگاه کردن به فرج زن باعث کوری میشه (۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۷:۴۲)وحید110 نوشته است: ببین دوست عزیز خدا حکم رو بیان کرده و دلیل رو نگفته . انچه که ما میگیم برای توجیه حکم در حد همون علم ناقص بشریه . اما به مستندمون ایمان داریم . و میدونیم کار بی دلیل و باطل ازش سر نمیزنه . فرض کن من مسلمانم چه دلیلی بر رد استمنا داری؟ |
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۱۷:۵۰, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۸:۰۲ توسط سوشیانس.)
شماره ارسال: #35
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به نام خدای بزرگ
الان وقت ندارم فارسیش رو بنویسم حتما تا فردا می نوسیم این خلاصه ی پایان نامه من هست آقای مهرداد لطفا بخوان Dangers of masturbation How much is over-masturbation? Well for start over-masturbation would be several times a day. Some doctors even recommend to keep ejaculation (not masturbation) frequency down to two or three times a week. That leads to conclusion that sexual activity can be experienced more often if man learns how to achieve orgasm without ejaculation, which is one of tantric sex principles. According to “old knowledge” achieving orgasm without ejaculation stores bioenergy and makes penis firmer, hence your erections last longer and the volume man ejaculates is bigger. But we would agree that masturbation and its frequency also depends on persons age and sometimes even period in life. It is normal that 16 year old masturbates more often than 40-year old. Isn't it? A 16-year old just started to show some affection for his (all of a sudden erected part), while 40-year old is "over" it. (We are talking about frequency). Some people relax this way. Well, on steadyhealth we are not really sure whether this is best way to relax. Guess not. Maybe occasionally, but if you simply don't feel horny and if you feel tense, rather take a walk or go play basketball than developing a behaviour that could potentially lead to addiction. So, what about effects of over-masturbation? Internal body temperature is a bit higher than external body temperature. Internal body temperature increases with masturbation- this is the reason you feel more hot or sometimes even sweaty after masturbating. Considering that, we found following information: when person ejaculates, a “peristaltic movement of absorption takes place and by effect of the emptiness, the seminal vesicle tries to fill and humid air is absorbed through the penis which is later absorbed from the seminal vesicle to the lymphatic system, arriving at the brain producing a thermal shock and cold spaces between the cerebral neurons and cells and this affects cerebral, physical and nervous normality” (anael.org). Well, the same thing happens when having sex and not ejaculating in partner, but using removal method (which is very popular among steady couples), and not one source mentions that. Later on same source mentions that seminal vesicle absorb air, which is transferred into brain, which may leads to stupidity and insanity. We think this is nonsense! Simply ask yourself- do you feel more stupid or more insane before/ after masturbation?! Sperm contains DNA, which is carrier of the heredity genetic code, and RNA which contains enzymes, proteins, glucosides, lecithin, calcium, phosphorus, biological salts, testosterone, etc. However, the sperm is by far not the only substance in our body that contains DNA and RNA. When ejaculation is carried out, a very small percentage of this components (enzymes, proteins, glucosides, lecithin, calcium, phosphorus, biological salts, testosterone) are eliminated from the body. For example, when extracting calcium from the body one could cause him/ herself fatigue and pain in the bones. But we all know calcium (and all other components) are easily substituted with food. Actually, it is normal to extract 'old' components and replace them with new ones. Over-masturbation, or more accurately said over-ejaculation stimulates parasympathetic nervous functions, which results in the over production of sex hormones: acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin. Abnormally high levels of sex hormones cause brain and adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion. In other words: there is a big change of body chemistry when man or woman practices over-masturbation. Hmm... is something wrong with body chemistry? Well, actually not- if there is balance. But if there is no balance, some other symptoms might occur. We are still talking about over-masturbation, not just masturbation! Another source (herballove.com) points out that people who over-masturbate could experience problems with concentration and memory, which is supposedly a clear sign of “being over drained of acetylcholine”. According to herballove.com over-masturbating can also drain the motor nerves, neuro-muscular endings, and tissues of acetylcholine and replace it with too much stress adrenalin which is where absentmindedness, memory loss, lack of concentration, and eye floaters come from. They also point that over-masturbation may be linked to male pattern baldness. Male baldness is namely directly related to DHT (dihydrotestosterone), the same as the production of DHT is related to sex and masturbation. If person over-masturbates (over-ejaculates) testosterone is converted into DHT. Following that high levels of DHT overload the body causing baldness. This thesis needs more debate! We all know baldness is hereditary, and that older people that didn't used to be bals eventually start loosing their hair. What about their DHT levels? We at steadyhealth say these are myths! But they are not alone, here are some others, like masturbation leads to blindness, baldness, impotence, mental illness. Myth is also thesis that it can permanently reduce libido, sexual performance and the quantity or quality of semen. All myths! And not only that: Masters and Johnson (physicians who pioneered the field of sexuality) have demonstrated no negative short-term or long-term medical health effects from masturbation. However, there is psychical aspect to masturbation. For example, if masturbation occurs in marriage as a substitute for sex, it could potentially damage the self-esteem of the partner not involved. However, it is not the the masturbation – it is another problem: lack of communication. Over-masturbation could also lead into addition or obsession, which may consequently lead to diversion of income toward sex merchandises (all sort of sex toys, pornography...) and may limit person to participate in other (social) activities. It is also true (and you might already experience that): frequent and vigorous masturbation (again over-masturbation) may produce skin irritation/ abrasions or even superficial bruising, sometimes temporary discoloration. The condition improves with time, if of course not masturbating. In conclusion Generally – masturbation (nor over-masturbation) is a perfectly normal and safe sexual behaviour for both men and women. Actually, it is recommended to explore yourself: this way you'll know what you like and what you don't like, it may help you become more comfortable with your own sexuality. You'll be more able to develop stronger and satisfying sexual relationship. It may even be helpful to reduce stress (although we also recommend other relaxation techniques). And most of all it is better to masturbate than to play around with no protection: masturbation eliminates the potential for transmission of sexually transmitted diseases. Same is true for pregnancy. Davdyan.Mahya Pharmaceutical - Uppsala University |
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۱۷:۵۰, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۷:۵۴ توسط مهرداد.)
شماره ارسال: #36
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در مورد قران من می گم اشاره نکرده
سوره ی مومنون بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم به نام خداوند بخشنده ی مهربان قد افلح المومنون همانا اهل ایمان به رستگاری رسیدند الذین فی صلاتهم خاشعون انان که در نمازهای شان خاشعند والذین هم عن الغو معرضون و انان که از لعو و سخن باطل اعراض کنند والذین هم للزکوه فاعلون و انانکه زکات مال خود را به فقرا می دهند والذین هم لفروجهم خافظون و انان که فروج و اندامشان را از عمل حرام نگاه می دارند الا ازواجهم او ما ملکت ایمانهم غیر ملومین مگر بر جفتهایشان یا کنیزان ملکی که هیچ گونه ملامتی در مباشرت با این زنان بر انها نیست فمن ابنغی ورا ذلک فاولئک هم العادون و کسانی که غیر از زنان حلال را به مباشرت می طلبند البته از تجاوز کارانند خوب دقت کردید هیچ کجای این ایات اشاره به استمنا نکرده در ایه ی 5 گفته(و انان که فروج و اندامشان را از عمل حرام نگاه می دارند)گفته از عمل حرام یعنی زنا و همجنس بازی نه استمنا چون تا اینجا هیج اشاره ای به حرام بودن استمنا نکرده در ایه ی 6 گفته(مگر بر جفتهایشان یا کنیزان ملکی که هیچ گونه ملامتی در مباشرت با این زنان بر انها نیست)در این ایه در واقع مردان را از مباشرت و جماع با غیر از زنان و کنیزانشان منع کرده نه از استمنا در ایه بعدی هم گفته (و کسانی که غیر از زنان حلال را به مباشرت می طلبند البته از تجاوز کارانند)ِیعنی کسانی که غیر از زنان خود با زنان دیگر جماع کنند از تجاوز کارانند نه استمنا کننده متاسفانه افراد با تکیه با همین ایات که هیچ اشاره ای به استمنا نکرده می گویند استمنا حرام است متاسفانه در سایتهای انگلیسی هم خراف هست خرافه در همه جا هست باید به پزشک مراجعه کنی و ببینی اون چی میگه که من رکدن و جوابو گرفتم پس شما هم اینو بخون متاسفانه در برخی از سایتهای شبه علمی این طورگفته می شود که در غرب هم پزشکان خودارضایی را عامل بروز بسیاری از بیماریها می دانند و حتی برای اثبات حرفهای خود نظرات تحریف شده ی برخی از دانشمندان غربی را هم می اورند اما واقعیت غیر از این است البته خودارضایی در صورت افراط قطعا ضرراتی خواهد داشت اما خودارضایی به هیچ وجه باعث کوری یا کچلی نخواهد شد من چند مقاله ی انگلیسی رو برای روشن شدن واقعیت می زارم masturbation منبع:http://e-articles.info/e/a/title/The-Habit-of-Masturbation:-Causes,-Effects-and-Solutions/ MASTURBATION DEFINED In general sense, masturbation is the act of exciting the sexual organs by rubbing, stroking, or fondling, pressing or other forms of handling. It is part of the normal sexual development which occurs in adolescent and which everyone indulges in at some point in life. In a more restricted sense, masturbation goes beyond just exciting the sexual organs, that is, in men, not just handling the penis until erection is achieved. After the initial excitement, the handling of the sexual organ continues until the point of intense sexual pleasure and often times, until orgasm occurs. In other words, masturbation is an act by which one has “sexual intercourse” with oneself. This could be called auto-sexuality, although true auto-sexuality only occurs in an hermaphrodite. Hermaphrodite refers to an animal that possesses both male and female sexual organs. Those who masturbate will agree with me that it gives physical pleasure similar to that experienced during sexual intercourse with the opposite sex. Masturbation to the point of orgasm gives relief from tension. There are many unfounded false beliefs associated with masturbation and some of them are very absurd. For instance, some believe that masturbation can cause blindness, deafness, ill-health or sterility. None of these claims is true. Admittedly, masturbation causes a lot of distress, guilt and self-reproach in those who practice it very regularly. Like most sexual behaviours, there is little information available about how common it is because of cultural taboo. However, information available suggest that masturbation is more common in men than in women. In one survey among adolescents, it was found that 98 of every 100 boys masturbate, and about 70 of every 100 girls do so before the age of 21years. It is also suggested that masturbation is more common in technologically advanced societies. In the following chapter, we shall look at why people masturbate. WHY DO PEOPLE MASTURBATE? Masturbation is a sexual behaviour developed in childhood. This behaviour is normally discarded as the individual grows up into adulthood. It becomes an abnormal situation when it is sustained to adulthood. The following are some of the reasons why masturbation is practiced. (A) Lateness in Getting Married: The men become fully sexually developed without a steady partner for relieving their sexual arousals. Those who cannot seek sexual relationship with prostitutes often continue the adolescent practice of masturbation. (B) Boarding of Adolescents: This encourages exchange of information about masturbation and allows room for adventures into it. When such boarding facilities are unisex and far away from where sexual intercourse with the other sex is possible, then masturbation becomes quite rampant. © Sex Materials: With technological advancement comes literature (books, magazines, pictures) and audio-visual materials (films, televisions and videos) which arouse sexual desires in adolescents. In the absence of a sexual partner to relieve such sexual tension generated from these materials, masturbation becomes a way out. These materials, of course, do not exist in a technologically primitive societies but that does not mean that masturbation does not occur in these societies. As I mentioned earlier, masturbation is part of the normal sexual development in every human being. It only becomes a deviation from normal sexual behaviour when it is practiced more frequently and to the point of orgasm. Let us critically look at the practice of masturbation in men and in women. THE ACT IN MEN: The hand is the most common object of masturbation. In men, the penis is stroked, massaged or squeezed with one or both hands until erection is achieved. Sometimes, erection is aroused by sight or by the thought of a woman. Men imagine all the actions and pleasures associated with sex and how wonderful an admired lady would be in bed. This causes them to feel excited. The erection is then maintained by handling the penis until the point of ejaculation. Some men use lubricants, such as soap, cream, etc to make the hand more slippery as it passes forwards and backwards over the penis. The lubricant reduces the chance of bruising the penis in the process. Some men have been known to use other objects or method to achieve orgasm. Some use other devises made of soft rubber shaped like the female vagina while some have been known to create holes in their mattress for the same purpose. Once orgasm is achieved, which is indicated by ejaculation, the person feels relaxed as if he had normal sexual intercourse. In some, who have formed a habit of masturbating regularly, this relief may be followed by a strong sense of GUILT and a RESOLUTION to STOP indulging in the habit; but like all habits, they would do it again and again. THE ACT IN WOMEN: In women, the hand is also the first instrument to try when masturbating. The clitoris is stroke, fondled or squeezed to arouse sexual response. This causes the clitoris to swell and the secretion of fluid in and around the vagina. This, of course, is associated with a pleasurable feeling. The lips of the vagina are also stroked with the fingers and as the vagina becomes wet with secretion, the fingers may be poked in and out of the vagina. The stroking of the clitoris, lips of the vagina and poking of the vagina are alternated at random and at will until orgasm is achieved. Of course in women, orgasm is less easy to recognize as there is no ejaculation of semen. It is usually associated with an intense emotional feeling of loss of control of oneself for a brief period. This may be accompanied by rhythmic contraction of the muscles around the vagina and the anus, in a fashion similar to that felt by men during ejaculation. As masturbation becomes a habit in women, other objects apart from the hand are used. The candle is an object that is used by many girls, while some use dido which is an object shaped like the male penis. Other women use vibrator which is also an object shaped like the male penis and which has a battery that causes it to vibrate when switched on. Recent research has revealed that in addition to the reasons listed earlier in this work, most people decide to masturbate because of: their decision not to be unfaithful to their partners, their fear of contracting HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases, their fear of unwanted pregnancies, their bitterness and disappointment of past or recent experience in relationships with men or women, and lack of confidence and courage in reaching out to people of the opposite sex. THE EFFECTS OF MASTURBATION As I mentioned earlier, there are many unfounded false beliefs about the effects of masturbation. It is unthinkable how these beliefs started but most have been perpetuated by ignorance, some of which stem from the cultural taboo on sexual discussions. For example, how can one explain the belief that masturbation which is only an alternative way of achieving sexual release can cause blindness, deafness, insanity or stupidity when the real sexual intercourse does not? There are also those who believe that masturbation causes ill-health and mental degradation, while some people believe that masturbation in women causes swelling of the internal sexual organs due to accumulation of blood. Some also believe that the enlargement of the inner lips of the vagina can result from masturbation. All these are totally false! There is no truth in the belief that frequent masturbation is harmful to health. The effect of masturbation on maturity and sexual behaviour has been an area of interest to psychiatrist and psychologists since Sigmund Freud propounded his theories of how the mind works earlier in the century. He identified three stages of the development of the mind: (1) The Oral Stage: When the child experiences everything through the mouth. (2) The Genital Stage: When the child enjoys playing with the genital organs, and (3) Full Maturity: When the person is able to adjust and interact effectively with others around him or her. Sigmund Freud's theory recognizes that everyone masturbates before achieving full maturity, though most people are always shy to confess this clear fact. However, those who advocate this theory also say that persons who masturbate have failed to develop beyond the genital stage. Hence, they say that masturbation is an expression of immaturity of the mind. This, of course, is not true as most people who masturbate have been able to live and function as mature adults in every way. Most of them go on to have full and normal heterosexual relationship (that is, sexual relationship with someone of the opposite sex; usually after edifying contacts as contained in http://nigerlove.wetpaint.com ). Such persons cease to masturbate after they settle down in life (get married) and only masturbate if their spouse is away and they do not wish to indulge in extra marital sex. ADVANTAGES OF MASTURBATION Undoubtedly, there are a few persons who masturbate and who are of immature mind, but so are there persons who do not masturbate have less sexual desire or have hang-ups about sex. There is no basis for the belief that people who masturbate have less sexual desires or have hang-ups about sex. A recent survey in fact, showed that people who masturbate have increased sexual desire and have more sexual drive than those who do not. There are people who because of previous experience, are afraid of sexual intercourse. Such people find solace in masturbation for the release of their sexual desires but they are in the minority. Masturbation provides an alternate sexual intercourse – free of the need and complications or cost of finding a consenting partner, free from the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, free from HIV/AIDS and free from the risk of unwanted pregnancy. Masturbation provides a chance for the girl or woman to explore her sexual response and for the man, to release his tensions when aroused at a time he is alone or not bold enough to have a regular girl friend. Masturbation develops self love and familiarizes oneself with one's own sexual response. One can relieve sexual tension without imposing on any body else. These are advantages. DISADVANTAGES OF MASTURBATION Most people who masturbate have a feeling of guilt of doing something they have been made to believe is bad. Most of these feelings arose from religious or cultural taboo and traditional beliefs on sexual behaviour and practices. Bruising of the genital organs can occur during masturbation, particularly if they are handled roughly during the act or if there is not enough lubrication. These can cause a lot of pain and can lead to serious infection if contaminated by germs. Like all habits, it may be difficult to break for some people. The tendency is also there for adolescents to do nothing else but masturbate whenever they have some free time. This is bad as it does not allow them to develop other aspects of their talent and broaden their horizon for the world ahead. There is the danger that masturbation may be preferred to normal sexual intercourse, and this may affect sexual relationship after marriage. In men, masturbation has been known to be associated with premature ejaculation, that is, having ejaculation before or just after sexual intercourse has begun. If a person thinks of masturbation and nothing else or if his or her whole existence revolves around masturbation then there is something harmful but if one enjoys masturbation with full control, it is not harmful. However, the dangers of masturbation have been exaggerated. It may not lead to any physical injury unless one is addicted to it. Any ill effects which masturbation may result are feeling of anxiety, guilt, or self condemnation which it brings. Masturbation is looked upon as wicked, sinful and abnormal by elders and it results in sexual anxieties among children. In spite of the religious and cultural disapproval, masturbation is widely practiced especially by adolescents (As from 20 to 35 years old). As part of healthy development, it is acceptable but however, it can become a habit that may affect future normal sexual relationship. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON MASTURBATION (1) Does a girl lose her virginity if she masturbates? No. because for losing virginity, one should have heterosexual intercourse or engage in vigorous sporting activities. Masturbation is not sexual intercourse. It is also not necessary that during masturbation hymen will rupture too. (2) Can masturbation become a habit? Yes. Once the habit is formed, it is difficult to break. Sometimes, a person at a particular hour or under same circumstances starts suddenly to masturbate. An example is when the person masturbates before having his or her bath in the bathroom. The person does it whether he or she is sexually excited or not. (3) Is masturbation common among married persons too? Yes. Some people overlook or ignore the sexual desires and needs of their wives or husbands after marriage (see our articles at http://globalinterchange.wetpaint.com ) . This leads to sexual frustration. Because the African society condemns infidelity and extra marital affairs, most people compensate themselves with masturbation which is often done in secret. Some women may find having sex with men unsatisfying. They therefore resort to masturbation. (4) In what other way is masturbation harmful to men? When masturbation becomes a habit, men may start doing it even without sexual desire and tension. This becomes a routine phenomenon for them and after the act, they may feel a strong sense of guilt and low self esteem. Biologically speaking, there is a continuous production of seminal fluid and sperm which takes about three months to mature in men. Generally, a man can cope with one ejaculation every two to three days. But if a man masturbates more frequently, sperm count may fall for some time but later on after a gap of three to four days, the sperm count may return to normal. Sperm count refers to the quantity and quality of active sperm produced by the male sexual organs at a given period. What this means is that any man who masturbates on a daily basis out of habit, may not be sexually very healthy. Naturally, the body reacts as a way of passing signal that the reproductive organs are being overstressed. This message is transmitted by the body through the occasional pains experienced in the scrotum. ( 5) Can masturbation take place without thinking of sex? Generally, it is not possible. Most commonly, those who practice it evoke past memories. In one survey about 55% of the people indicated that exposure of erotic literature, pictures, movies, blue films and similar materials increased their desire to masturbate. Reading erotic literature is very common among young college students. Females have their fantasies of the people they love from their hearts while men think of those girls who are beyond their reach and imagine having sex with them. Many people masturbate in order to combat the feelings of loneliness. Not frequently, people also resort to the practice to release tension generated by occupational or personal stress or simply to induce sleep. (6) How can masturbation be stopped? Once a habit is formed, it takes time, determination, discipline and above all, God's help to overcome it. Let us look at the possible ways we can break the habit of masturbation. By sincerely confessing the habit to God in prayer and asking for his divine help to break the habit. If the habit is practiced before during or after having your bath pray before entering your bathroom to have your bath. If the urge to masturbate comes when you are alone, practice the habit of reading books or doing anything that will remove your mind from it. Avoid contact with blue films and any pornographic materials. In case you have friends who delight in doing it, break away from their friendship. Avoid being in friendship with those who share the same weakness with you. Ensure that you mix up with good friends http://nigerlove.wetpaint.com that will influence you positively. In spite of the advantages or disadvantages of masturbation discussed above, no one should become a slave to any habit; no matter what its benefits are. در ضمن در اون مقاله گفته استمنای افراطی نه استمنای عادی مثل هر چیز افراط در استمنا مضره خوبه اول مقاله رو بخونی بعد بزاری Well for start over-masturbation would be several times a day. استمنا ی زیاد چندین بار در روز |
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۱۷:۵۵, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۷:۵۵ توسط وحید110.)
شماره ارسال: #37
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نقل قول:خوب ائمه هم نگفتن استمنا کنی کور می شیخوب من هم نگفتم اگر استمنا کنی کور میشی شما هم درست میفرمایید این که چه مضراتی داره به عهده علم هست . و علم به اون خواهد رسید . اما نه الان که خیلی ناقصه . و هر لحظه یه نظریه جدید خلاف قبلی میاد علی الحساب تا زمانی که کشف بشه بنده به عقل خودم که خدا رو بزرگتر از پزشک میدونه عمل میکنم . این نوع بیان 2 جمله اخر شما نشون میده در چه سطحی از ادب و دانش هستید این جملات زمانی میاد که منطق ته میکشه فکر میکردم با انسان اهل اندیشه ای طرف هستم . اگر منطق شما بیشتر از این نیست لطفا وقت من و دوستان رو نگیرید من دارم مدام جملاتم رو تکرار میکنم . اما برای اینکه راهنماییتون کنم برای بحث میتونید برام ثابت کنید که خدا نیست . و یا خدا دروغ میگه . که البته نمیتونید . و خودتون اعتراف کردید که هنوز نمیدونید خدا چیه . بحث هم فقط استمنا نیست فرض میگیریم مسایل دیگری هم در پزشکی هست که با دین نمیخونه من کلی جواب دادم . این که برای احکام دلیل بتراشیم میشه قیاس که در مذهب جعفری مطرود هست و فقط قیاس منصوص العله قابل قبوله یا حق |
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۱۸:۰۲, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۸:۰۵ توسط مهرداد.)
شماره ارسال: #38
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اما در مورد توهینی که به من کردید اگه صحبتاتون رو نگاه کنید می بینید که سرشار از مغالطه است که مغالطه کار انسانهای ضعیف در بحث است
در ضمن شما در مقاله ای که گذاشتید گفته استمنا با عث جنون می شه در مورد علم هم پس شما هیچ کاری نکنید چون علم به اون حد اعلی نرسیده چلوکباب هم نمی تونی بخوری علی الحساب تا اون موقع هم اگه بخوای به خدا تکیه کنی خدا نگفته استمنا باعث جنون می شه اصلا کل حرف من هم همینه شما می گی با علم کاری نداری خوب پس بگو خدا گفته حرامه فقط همین یه مشت خرافات رو به اسم دین تحویل نده کسی هم با تو کاری نداره تو می گی علمی که فقط حرف تو رو تایید کنه که اونم قبول نداری Dear Alice Is masturbation healthy? — Hand boy Dear Hand boy, Yes. Stroking the one-eyed snake, polishing your pearl, southern comfort… whatever you call it, masturbation is a healthy (and normal) sexual activity that people of any gender may enjoy. In fact, masturbation can be healthy in a number of different ways: physically, mentally, and emotionally. Masturbation can also be a healthy addition to solo, partnered, or group sexual encounters. Read on to find out why. Masturbation is one way for you to enjoy your own body, and to give yourself sexual pleasure. It can also tune you in to your own sexual likes and dislikes. You then have the choice of sharing that information with a sexual partner(s) to enhance a sexual relationship. Mutual masturbation, when two people masturbate in front of each other, can also be arousing, and is a great alternative to intercourse without the risk of transmission of sexually transmitted diseases or risk of pregnancy. Believe it or not, quite a lot of research has been conducted on this subject. And the overall conclusion is that masturbation is universal across nearly all cultures, and that it can have a number of healthy outcomes, such as: Relieving stress and releasing tension (including the obvious, sexual tension) Providing a sexual outlet for people who are not having sex with a partner (whether by choice or by circumstance) Alleviating pre-menstrual symptoms in some women Helping to induce sleep, or conversely, helping to start the day with an energized calm Strengthening muscle tone in the genital region Promoting a couples' level of sexual satisfaction in their relationship Providing treatment for some types of sexual dysfunction One study even found a correlation showing that ejaculating more often (whether through partnered sex or masturbation) led to a lower risk of prostate cancer in adult men. In case you're curious, there is also a great deal of information about who masturbates. The short answer is people of all kinds. But to flesh it out a little more (excuse the pun): Infants — while not necessarily erotic, many infants touch their genitals once they learn that the stimulation feels good. Children — again, not necessarily erotic, but many children also find self-stimulation pleasurable. Adolescents — perhaps the classic group associated with masturbation. Many males and females masturbate regularly in their pre-teens and teens. Adults — married, partnered, or single, adults ages 18-59 are actually more likely to masturbate than adolescents. What's more, people with regular sexual partners are more likely to masturbate than singles. And then there are many people, from all age groups, who rarely or never masturbate. While masturbation itself is normal and healthy, there are times when a person might have a negative relationship with solo sex. Certain cultures or religions place such a stigma on masturbation that some people feel guilt or shame after pleasuring themselves. On a different note, a few people feel the compulsion to masturbate so often that it begins to interfere with other life events and duties, such as working or going to school. For people who are concerned about masturbation, it may be helpful to discuss any quandaries with a counselor, health care provider, religious leader, or trusted friend. To maximize your pleasure and safety, here are some tips to consider when getting a grip on yourself: If you're using any objects to help get the job done (sex toys, cucumbers, what have you), throw a condom on first — especially if that object will be shared with someone else or enter more than one orifice (use a new condom for each "destination"). Plenty of lube = maximum comfort (and less chafing) — water-based lube is a universally good choice. Some men prefer using lotion on their penis, however women should avoid inserting lotion, oil, petroleum jelly, and anytying oil-based, into the vagina to avoid risk of vaginitis (irritation and/or infection in the vagina). Masturbate when it's enjoyable to you. If you don't feel like it, don't worry about it. If you want to do it again, go ahead. Try different techniques, positions, times of day, mood music, etc. to learn more about what feels best. People sometimes wonder if a person can masturbate "too much." To this concern, the answer is: not likely. As long as you are still able to participate in your normal daily activities, you can feel free to masturbate none, one, or multiple times per day. Alice Related Q&As Orgasms by masturbation vs. intercourse Mutual masturbation Roommate masturbates every night Connection between ejaculation frequency and prostate health Masturbation — too much of a good thing? Can masturbation cause gas? Too much masturbation affects orgasms? Masturbating friends I'm not very hand-y (or, how to give a good hand job) Beatless in Seattle: Masturbation stops when relationship begins Erection detection Masturbating stats: Are there gender differences and why? Re http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0539.html این پستام برای چی نمی اد؟ Dear Alice, Is masturbation healthy? — Hand boy Dear Hand boy, Yes. Stroking the one-eyed snake, polishing your pearl, southern comfort… whatever you call it, masturbation is a healthy (and normal) sexual activity that people of any gender may enjoy. In fact, masturbation can be healthy in a number of different ways: physically, mentally, and emotionally. Masturbation can also be a healthy addition to solo, partnered, or group sexual encounters. Read on to find out why. Masturbation is one way for you to enjoy your own body, and to give yourself sexual pleasure. It can also tune you in to your own sexual likes and dislikes. You then have the choice of sharing that information with a sexual partner(s) to enhance a sexual relationship. Mutual masturbation, when two people masturbate in front of each other, can also be arousing, and is a great alternative to intercourse without the risk of transmission of sexually transmitted diseases or risk of pregnancy. Believe it or not, quite a lot of research has been conducted on this subject. And the overall conclusion is that masturbation is universal across nearly all cultures, and that it can have a number of healthy outcomes, such as: Relieving stress and releasing tension (including the obvious, sexual tension) Providing a sexual outlet for people who are not having sex with a partner (whether by choice or by circumstance) Alleviating pre-menstrual symptoms in some women Helping to induce sleep, or conversely, helping to start the day with an energized calm Strengthening muscle tone in the genital region Promoting a couples' level of sexual satisfaction in their relationship Providing treatment for some types of sexual dysfunction One study even found a correlation showing that ejaculating more often (whether through partnered sex or masturbation) led to a lower risk of prostate cancer in adult men. In case you're curious, there is also a great deal of information about who masturbates. The short answer is people of all kinds. But to flesh it out a little more (excuse the pun): Infants — while not necessarily erotic, many infants touch their genitals once they learn that the stimulation feels good. Children — again, not necessarily erotic, but many children also find self-stimulation pleasurable. Adolescents — perhaps the classic group associated with masturbation. Many males and females masturbate regularly in their pre-teens and teens. Adults — married, partnered, or single, adults ages 18-59 are actually more likely to masturbate than adolescents. What's more, people with regular sexual partners are more likely to masturbate than singles. And then there are many people, from all age groups, who rarely or never masturbate. While masturbation itself is normal and healthy, there are times when a person might have a negative relationship with solo sex. Certain cultures or religions place such a stigma on masturbation that some people feel guilt or shame after pleasuring themselves. On a different note, a few people feel the compulsion to masturbate so often that it begins to interfere with other life events and duties, such as working or going to school. For people who are concerned about masturbation, it may be helpful to discuss any quandaries with a counselor, health care provider, religious leader, or trusted friend. To maximize your pleasure and safety, here are some tips to consider when getting a grip on yourself: If you're using any objects to help get the job done (sex toys, cucumbers, what have you), throw a condom on first — especially if that object will be shared with someone else or enter more than one orifice (use a new condom for each "destination"). Plenty of lube = maximum comfort (and less chafing) — water-based lube is a universally good choice. Some men prefer using lotion on their penis, however women should avoid inserting lotion, oil, petroleum jelly, and anytying oil-based, into the vagina to avoid risk of vaginitis (irritation and/or infection in the vagina). Masturbate when it's enjoyable to you. If you don't feel like it, don't worry about it. If you want to do it again, go ahead. Try different techniques, positions, times of day, mood music, etc. to learn more about what feels best. People sometimes wonder if a person can masturbate "too much." To this concern, the answer is: not likely. As long as you are still able to participate in your normal daily activities, you can feel free to masturbate none, one, or multiple times per day. Alice Related Q&As Orgasms by masturbation vs. intercourse Mutual masturbation Roommate masturbates every night Connection between ejaculation frequency and prostate health Masturbation — too much of a good thing? Can masturbation cause gas? Too much masturbation affects orgasms? Masturbating friends I'm not very hand-y (or, how to give a good hand job) Beatless in Seattle: Masturbation stops when relationship begins Erection detection Masturbating stats: Are there gender differences and why? Re Dear Alice, Is masturbation healthy? — Hand boy Dear Hand boy, Yes. Stroking the one-eyed snake, polishing your pearl, southern comfort… whatever you call it, masturbation is a healthy (and normal) sexual activity that people of any gender may enjoy. In fact, masturbation can be healthy in a number of different ways: physically, mentally, and emotionally. Masturbation can also be a healthy addition to solo, partnered, or group sexual encounters. Read on to find out why. Masturbation is one way for you to enjoy your own body, and to give yourself sexual pleasure. It can also tune you in to your own sexual likes and dislikes. You then have the choice of sharing that information with a sexual partner(s) to enhance a sexual relationship. Mutual masturbation, when two people masturbate in front of each other, can also be arousing, and is a great alternative to intercourse without the risk of transmission of sexually transmitted diseases or risk of pregnancy. Believe it or not, quite a lot of research has been conducted on this subject. And the overall conclusion is that masturbation is universal across nearly all cultures, and that it can have a number of healthy outcomes, such as: Relieving stress and releasing tension (including the obvious, sexual tension) Providing a sexual outlet for people who are not having sex with a partner (whether by choice or by circumstance) Alleviating pre-menstrual symptoms in some women Helping to induce sleep, or conversely, helping to start the day with an energized calm Strengthening muscle tone in the genital region Promoting a couples' level of sexual satisfaction in their relationship Providing treatment for some types of sexual dysfunction One study even found a correlation showing that ejaculating more often (whether through partnered sex or masturbation) led to a lower risk of prostate cancer in adult men. In case you're curious, there is also a great deal of information about who masturbates. The short answer is people of all kinds. But to flesh it out a little more (excuse the pun): Infants — while not necessarily erotic, many infants touch their genitals once they learn that the stimulation feels good. Children — again, not necessarily erotic, but many children also find self-stimulation pleasurable. Adolescents — perhaps the classic group associated with masturbation. Many males and females masturbate regularly in their pre-teens and teens. Adults — married, partnered, or single, adults ages 18-59 are actually more likely to masturbate than adolescents. What's more, people with regular sexual partners are more likely to masturbate than singles. And then there are many people, from all age groups, who rarely or never masturbate. While masturbation itself is normal and healthy, there are times when a person might have a negative relationship with solo sex. Certain cultures or religions place such a stigma on masturbation that some people feel guilt or shame after pleasuring themselves. On a different note, a few people feel the compulsion to masturbate so often that it begins to interfere with other life events and duties, such as working or going to school. For people who are concerned about masturbation, it may be helpful to discuss any quandaries with a counselor, health care provider, religious leader, or trusted friend. To maximize your pleasure and safety, here are some tips to consider when getting a grip on yourself: If you're using any objects to help get the job done (sex toys, cucumbers, what have you), throw a condom on first — especially if that object will be shared with someone else or enter more than one orifice (use a new condom for each "destination"). Plenty of lube = maximum comfort (and less chafing) — water-based lube is a universally good choice. Some men prefer using lotion on their penis, however women should avoid inserting lotion, oil, petroleum jelly, and anytying oil-based, into the vagina to avoid risk of vaginitis (irritation and/or infection in the vagina). Masturbate when it's enjoyable to you. If you don't feel like it, don't worry about it. If you want to do it again, go ahead. Try different techniques, positions, times of day, mood music, etc. to learn more about what feels best. People sometimes wonder if a person can masturbate "too much." To this concern, the answer is: not likely. As long as you are still able to participate in your normal daily activities, you can feel free to masturbate none, one, or multiple times per day. Alice Related Q&As Orgasms by masturbation vs. intercourse Mutual masturbation Roommate masturbates every night Connection between ejaculation frequency and prostate health Masturbation — too much of a good thing? Can masturbation cause gas? Too much masturbation affects orgasms? Masturbating friends I'm not very hand-y (or, how to give a good hand job) Beatless in Seattle: Masturbation stops when relationship begins Erection detection Masturbating stats: Are there gender differences and why? Re اقایون شرمنده یه صحنه هنگ شده بود پستام نمی اومد مجبور شدم دوباره بزنم شرمنده |
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۱۸:۰۵, ۲۶/تیر/۹۰
(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۸:۱۱ توسط وحید110.)
شماره ارسال: #39
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لطفا پستهات رو ویرایش نکن . پست جدید بده چون من دوباره بر نمیگردم برای مرور و متوجه نمیشم چیا اضافه کردی
نقل قول:هر کی هم که به فرج زن نگاه کنه کور می شه حدیث داریم از پیامبر نگاه کردن به الت تناسلی زن باعث کوری می شه اگر مسلمان بودی میدانستی که کوری 2 نوع است ظاهری و باطنی چشم دل و چشم سر .این حدیث این را میگوید در مورد کری هم به بسا دقت کنید در مورد خط فکری شما من دوست ندارم حدث بزنم اگر واقعا خجالت نمیکشی و ایدئولژی ابرومندی داری بگو نترس جناب مهرداد انگار شما اصلا متوجه منظور من نمیشوی عزیز دل من کلی بحث میکنم شما باز مقاله در مورد استمنا میزاری؟!! من که گفتم فرض میکنیم شما درست میگی . دیگه بالاتر از این؟ در مورد دلیل شرعی استمنا بعدا در همون تاپیک قبلی بپرس من به شما توهین کردم؟!!!! |
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(آخرین ویرایش ارسال: ۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۸:۱۳ توسط مهرداد.)
شماره ارسال: #40
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http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0539.html
اینم منبعش که کاملا معتبره در ضمن خیلی از سایتای خوب فی*ل*تر شدند مثل....بعدش هم شما کع فی*ل*تر شکنای خوبی دارین اون قضیه ی فیس بوک و... (۲۶/تیر/۹۰ ۱۸:۰۵)وحید110 نوشته است: لطفا پستهات رو ویرایش نکن . پست جدید بده چون من دوباره بر نمیگردم برای مرور و متوجه نمیشم چیا اضافه کردی خوب من هم می گم خدا استمنا رو به این خاطر منع کرده که جوونا رو به ازدواج تشویق کنه چطور تو می تونی یه همچین برداشتی از حدیثی به این واضحی بکنی اما من نمی تونم در مورد استمنا چنین برداشتی کنم بعدش هم این حرفای تو سفسطه بافی است مگه نه به وضوح گفته کور می شه اگه می خواست می گفت از نظر معنوی کور می شه ولی نگفته چون فکر می کرده واقعا از لحاظ جسمی کور می شه عرب هزار و چهارصد سال پیش هم که چیزی نمی فهمیده حرفشو باور می کرده تو داری یه جوری از حدیث برداشت می کنی که بالاخره به خودت فقط خودت هر جوری که شده اثبات کنی که یه عمر از یه چیز الکی پیروی نمی کردی مگه نه اگه به اصل جمله و حقیقت وفادار بودی می فهمیدی که واضح گفته باعث کوری می شه من از این که خرافاتی نیستم شرمنده نیستم |
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